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		<id>https://whystartat.xyz/index.php?title=Talk:Natural_numbers&amp;diff=306</id>
		<title>Talk:Natural numbers</title>
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		<updated>2021-08-26T13:54:43Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peterrowlett: Noting potential further ambiguity&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integer Wikipedia] also gives \(\mathbb{Z}_+\) and \(\mathbb{Z}^&amp;gt;\) for &amp;quot;positive integers&amp;quot; and \(\mathbb{Z}^{0+}\) and \(\mathbb{Z}^\ge\) for &amp;quot;non-negative integers&amp;quot;, but I don&#039;t know if these are used ambiguously in relation to 0.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peterrowlett</name></author>
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		<id>https://whystartat.xyz/index.php?title=Natural_numbers&amp;diff=305</id>
		<title>Natural numbers</title>
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		<updated>2021-08-26T13:51:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peterrowlett: Expanded to include Z+&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The set of natural numbers, usually written \(\mathbb{N}\), sometimes includes 0 and sometimes doesn&#039;t include 0.&lt;br /&gt;
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Relatedly, the set of integers \(\mathbb{Z}\) contains a subset \(\mathbb{Z}^+\). Sometimes this is used to mean strictly positive integers and so doesn&#039;t contain 0 and sometimes it is used to mean non-negative integers and does contain 0. &lt;br /&gt;
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Sometimes authors define \(\mathbb{N}\) and \(\mathbb{Z}^+\) as the same thing, either with or without zero. Sometimes authors define them differently such that \(\mathbb{N}\) contains zero and \(\mathbb{Z}^+\) does not, and sometimes authors define them differently such that \(\mathbb{N}\) does not contain zero and \(\mathbb{Z}^+\) does. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Conflicting definitions]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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